pockysquirrel: (facepalm)
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I HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF FEELINGS ABOUT THIS MOVIE.

Not all of them are good. Not all of them are bad. There are just a lot of them.

I have read several very articulate and thorough reviews about this movie. This post will not be one of them. My higher thought processes have been utterly fried by the sheer force of fangirl vitriol flowing through my veins right now, to the point that I am nigh incapable of a full analysis. (Actually, a post of that type would likely require me to liveblog the movie while watching it on Netflix in my living room, and result in a noise complaint from my neighbors due to the mass amounts of yelling.) Seriously, if any of you guys remember when I was marathoning PR seasons, the amount of yelling at my computer I did when I was watching Operation Overdrive? It was like that. Only in a movie theater. With people. There were times I felt like my head was going to explode from the effort of restraining myself from shouting variations on "ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!" at the movie screen.

How do you even quantify something like this? Typical modes of movie rating can't accurately measure the intensity of my ambivalence. One thumb up, one lodged in my ear canal in an effort to gouge the memories from my brain? The number of times I teared up vs. the number of times I felt like screaming obscenities? I am simultaneously seized by the desires to squee and spit venom, and I have no idea which reaction will win out.

It is not a pleasant feeling.

I suddenly have a level of empathy for fandom purists of all stripes that I never had before. This must be what the Transformers G1 fans felt when Beast Wars aired. (Just what IS the Trekkie equivalent of 'trukk not munky', though? 'Montalban not Cumberbatch' certainly does not have the same ring to it.) I will stop short of taking up the immortal battle cry that is "RUINED FOREVER" because I'm still not yet quite convinced that it is. Star Trek is a very old, very large franchise. It has been through radical changes before, and each incarnation brings something new to the table for good or for ill. I remember when people thought that Deep Space Nine was the ruination of Star Trek. And Voyager. And Enterprise. Hell, I might have been too young to even know what fandom was at the time, but I'm sure there was a large contingent of people who thought Next Generation would be the ruination of Star Trek when it aired. None of them were right. It's been almost 50 years and there is still Star Trek, and there are still Trekkies, not because of what this writer or that director or this cast did or didn't do, but because of a shared belief and commitment to an ideal.

That's the part that bothers me the most. Sitting here and wondering whether or not we have finally reached the tipping point where the idealistic value of Star Trek has been outstripped by the commercial value of Star Trek.

And I'm fairly sure Gene Roddenberry is spinning in his grave.
 
That much being said...

- STID probably has the best damn soundtrack I have heard in any movie since Lord of the Rings. I am probably going to buy it.
 
- One common beef I've heard about the movie and DON'T agree with is that Uhura and/or the supporting cast got shafted in terms of screen time and character development. If anything, I feel like this one was LESS 'The Kirk and Spock Show' than the first. Everyone got a goodie or two, and I was pleased with almost all of them. Except McCoy. The movie needed more McCoy. But I say that with an admittedly large and estrogen-fueled bias toward Karl Urban.

- Benedict Cumberbatch is simultaneously the best and worst thing about the movie. On one hand, I now understand what 90% of the internet seems to see in him. On the other, WORST CASTING EVER, DAMN IT ALL. And that's all I'm going to say about that, lest I start spewing feels again.

- That is now TWICE in two movies that Spock has been reduced to a raging emotion-fueled beast, and I am not amused. That is not Spock, Abrams. You're thinking of the Incredible Hulk. Spock is not the Incredible Hulk. Just because one bleeds green and the other IS green does not make them the same person. If I wanted to see the Incredible Hulk, I would fucking watch The Avengers. Mark Ruffalo is better at it anyway.

- OF COURSE they dedicated it to people who served in the aftermath of 9/11; you can't show a fucking suicide bombing and then RAM A STARSHIP INTO A BUILDING and not acknowledge 9/11. It's been over a decade since the actual attack, over 5 years since Enterprise tried it, and we are STILL managing to completely fail at properly allegorizing these things.  

Date: 2013-05-21 03:21 am (UTC)
starandrea: (boldly go newsweek photo by gus powell)
From: [personal profile] starandrea
Leonard Nimoy had a now-infamous argument with Gene Rodenberry over whether Spock should wear that IDIC necklace in 1969. A symbol that would become the emodiment of Federation ideals and one of the few constants in the Star Trek universe was scorned by Nimoy as a commercial ploy to produce a new image the franchise could sell. (And it was, of course; that's my point - commercialization isn't intrinsically bad. Today IDIC is arguably more recognizable than the Federation flag.)

For what it's worth, I refused to watch the Next Generation for Two Years because "that's not Star Trek." I'm glad I changed my mind! ♥

Date: 2013-05-21 03:44 am (UTC)
starandrea: (boldly go newsweek photo by gus powell)
From: [personal profile] starandrea
Do you think it takes away from what's already there? I love the new Star Trek movies, but hypothetically, say they're horrible or not Star Trek or what have you. Is that bad? I mean, we have tons of terrible Superman remakes, but I don't feel like that takes anything away from the legend :)

Date: 2013-05-21 04:14 am (UTC)
starandrea: (beach heart)
From: [personal profile] starandrea
I was just curious! :) I'm sorry; I didn't mean to make you repeat yourself. Totes glad you liked 2009 ♥

Date: 2013-05-21 03:58 am (UTC)
rivulet027: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rivulet027
<3 *continues to flail at you* Not enough McCoy and not enough Chekov...seriously they had a start of what could've been a storyline for Chekov and then never went there. McCoy was his awesome sexy snarky self but is that all he was there for? Your Hulk anology is perfect.

Date: 2013-05-21 04:22 am (UTC)
starandrea: (beach heart)
From: [personal profile] starandrea
::love:: I know you meant that for Pocky, but as a comment on my comment I must (super politely; I'm not trying to argue or be a jerk or anything) present an alternate perspective: Spock totally is the Incredible Hulk! He was the Data of his series! Stronger and faster than everyone else and a force for good only when he was on their side. Him losing control of his emotions was a repeating theme of the original series, and it was cast in stark contrast to the first three movies after his return from Gol. That's why The Voyage Home was so awesome; he was giving up Gol and learning to show emotion again. The way he did in the TV series, when he was repeatedly provoked into bashing people's heads in or making out with them, depending on the episode ♥

Date: 2013-05-21 04:33 am (UTC)
rivulet027: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rivulet027
I can see what you're saying, but I also think Spock processes information quickly so when Uhura gave him the infromation that McCoy needed BC's char alive then I think it would've made more sense for Spock to knock him out with as little damage as possible instead of continuing to beat on him. I think he'd have compartmentalized his rage a bit quicker than he did. Hulk kinda doesn't do that, he's more you hurt Bruce, you hurt me and now I'm going to hurt you...It's kinda an Inigo Montoya you killed my father prepare to die but with less elegance thing.

Date: 2013-05-21 04:44 am (UTC)
starandrea: (beach heart)
From: [personal profile] starandrea
Yeah, I was surprised that Spock hit him at all after that, because didn't Uhura say "he's our only chance of saving Kirk"? I didn't think she specified how or what, not even alive or conscious or anything, so I felt like the logical thing for Spock to do would be *nothing* until he had more information. What if it was a memory they needed, and another blow to the head made it irretrievable? o.O Totes agree that that was unlike him, and I felt like they threw the last punch in there only for the sake of storyline symmetry, to show that Spock now understood how Jim felt about losing Pike.

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